Plus: society pathologizes addiction without understanding why it happens, but there’s a growing consensus, particularly in the medical community, that addiction is not a moral failing or weakness of will. In this conversation, Ramsay-Giesz and Goulet explore how conditioning, childhood trauma and social and economic exclusion can lead to addiction.

This conversation was recorded on October 16th, 2018.

Subscribe to Unpacking the News on iTunes, Googleplay and Spotify and support the show’s Patreon here